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In their search for where it is we came from, scientists have ultimately not only proven “where” we came from but “how” we came from; and the “how” we came from proves the “where” we came from.

 

First of all, you can't get something from nothing, no matter how long you wait – it is a physiological, mathematical and scientific impossibility that defies logic, commonsense, and reality. The reality is that most (if not all) of everything in the universe is electrical. The atom, of which matter is made, is itself made up of electricity, as in the electron (-), proton (+) and the neutron (n). Since electricity cannot self-generate, it needs a source of energy. If it is true that energy produces matter and matter produces energy then it has to come down to the old schoolyard riddle of which came first - the chicken or the egg? The obvious answer has to be energy. Since energy (for the sake of energy) can't possibly self-exist, it has to be of supernatural origin.

 

Therefore they have proven not only the “how” of how we came into existence (from and through the particle level) but also they have proven that the “how” couldn't possibly have happened without the “Who.”

 

To believe ex nihilo or not to believe, that is the question. Even though it is far far better to believe in a supernatural creation from nothing rather than everything coming from nothing - all on its own, it still begs the question – just how did God accomplish this miracle we know as creation?

 

Ex nihilo is a Latin word that describes man's limited understanding of God and His true powers and is a word that people use to explain something they don't have a clue about - God's creative nature and true science.

 

Atheists as well as some Christians embrace something from nothing quite handily. Most Christians do the same with the proviso that it is God doing the creating and not just nothing all by itself. The one doesn't realize there is a God and the other does not know the power of God nor the scriptures as they pertain to science and creation.

 

Most everything we learn comes from an outside source and there are two aspects to what we learn – the accuracy of what we are taught and our gullibility to that which is in error and what we do with it. Are we self-thinkers or do we suffer from the P.T. Barnum syndrome: “there is a sucker born every minute”? Are we one of the “suckers born every minute” or do we stand out from the crowd? Christians and so-called Christians are not exempt from lies and deceptions or even engaging in them to further their own agendas and also recruit members – because they feel the need to belong at all costs, and not only belong, but to make sure that no one goes to hell – whether those hell-bound care or not.

 

As mentioned before, all atheists and some Christians ultimately believe everything came from nothing – it is the ultimate act of faith. Is that faith founded or unfounded? In all reality, the atheist's – “everything from nothing” and the Christian's – “ex nihilo” versions of creation are both extremes in unfounded faith. We, in our Biblical ignorance, assign a lot of things to God that He may not or does not claim and we are treading on dangerous ground when we do that, whether we are talking about methods of creation or using pagan holidays to bring glory to the name of God. Our understanding is not His understanding.

 

Everything except God has to have a starting point. But before that starting point there is only God or nothing. Whether you are speaking astronomically, geologically or biologically you can't get something from nothing even from the dream worlds of “quantum fluctuations” and/or from “false vacuums” and the like. Energy, which everything is ultimately made of, can only come from God because – God is energy and the energy everything is made up of, can't self-exist without being attached to the supernatural.

 

If there can be no supernatural self-existing God, how can there be a supernatural, self-existing, super-condensed ball of matter that somehow explodes into all creation? And where in the names of time, space and matter does that self-existing ball of matter come from, considering the fact that it was already matter sitting in whatever amount of space it occupied for however long of time it sat there before exploding into – time, space and matter? If you break down that “self-existing” ball of matter, you'll find that it was (in its former life) subatomic particles. And just what are subatomic particles – electricity and where does electricity come from – energy. Electricity cannot generate itself and therefore it has to come from energy and energy, in-and-of-itself is not self-existent: so where does it come from?

 

In the question of dueling ideologies – whose “apple pie in the sky” is easier to swallow? Whose faith is more absurd? And make no mistake; it is a matter of faith – founded vs. unfounded. It's a matter of faith in God or faith in science alone, as though science (knowledge) has some magical power to form inert matter that can somehow be developed eventually into a “simple” (no such thing) life form. Just count the interconnecting parts and processes of one cell and you will never refer to it as simple again. This is something God has always known but took mankind thousands of years to discover.

 

Science means knowledge – knowledge of things that exist whether they be things of the physical or mental and intellectual realm. There is no more scientific proof in the world for Supernatural Creation and Intelligent Design than the fact that you can't (scientifically speaking) get something from nothing, no matter long you wait or how hard you try to “quantum fluctuate” it or in other words; reduce it to its lowest common denominator if that common denominator isn't God. The very definition of “science” demands that there be something to know and/or deal with. There is no knowledge in or working with nothing – nothing is nothing, plain and simple, and for something to come out of nothing, is a bigger miracle than God even used to create the universe and everything in it. Just for the record, God didn't start with or from nothing – He started from the self-existing energy that is God Himself. Rom 1:20 (the invisible things of God) and 2 Cor 4:18 (spiritual vs. temporal) covers what true science really is or at very least, should be based on.

 

True science has its beginnings in the invisible, self-existing God. God says, of His self-existence, I AM that I AM. Six thousand years down the road, I reiterate what the Bible (and the New Testament specifically) has stated for at least 2000 – plus years; God is, because He is – God is Spirit, light, life, love, truth, wisdom and with what has been written about and revealed in the Bible and discovered by science all along the way, I say, God is energy and time as well .

 

The Christian world has gotten away with creation ex nihilo for so long, it was a natural sell for atheists to use that same strategy and its adherents are every bit as blind to their version of truth as most Christians are to theirs. And considering most of atheism is made up of disgruntled (so-called) Christians that were force-fed doctrines the Bible has never even heard of. And furthermore, they were expected to believe and live in and by them. It comes down to a simple change of miracles but make no mistake, it's the start of apostasy (to turn away from the true faith) with one group aiding and playing leapfrog with the other as they both decline from the truth. And when atheistic academia starts with the age-old strategy, “ye shall not surely die,” the rest of the “fall” cannot be far behind.

 

Academia starts out knocking the Bible stories and the miracles (not really knowing or caring if they are actual happenings or allegorical) that people have learned from childhood, all the while peddling their own brand of miracle (something from – nothing, all by itself). How is it that “they” get a pass on their version of creation and God doesn't? How is it that Eve believed a serpent rather than God? Like P.T. Barnum said, “there's a sucker born every minute.” As true as that is, it is only part of the story – apostasy, rebellion, and deception are definitely some of the other parts that have led to such worldwide stupidity and misery. P.T. Barnum would have been more correct if he had said; there is a “sinner” born every minute, but then again, sinners outside of G od's providential care are cursed into all sorts “bad luck” otherwise known as gambling addiction, drug addiction, food addiction, tobacco addiction, sex addiction and any other addiction that the world (wise in its own conceits) is calling diseases.

 

As the pagan Christian world population sees it, the insanity of the world conquest of evolution is no more or less explainable than the rise of the Third Reich and the popular national support, which it enjoyed. It's what the so-called Christian world deserved at the time, but make no mistake, “they” (the evolutionists) will owe God an apology as well as the rest of creation once the insanity of the evolution “fever “ has broken. Apostasy starts in the minds and lives of Christians and spreads out from there – further opening the paths of judgment. Christians will also owe God an apology for adding to and taking away from the revealed Word of God, which set up the whole reason evolution was thrust upon the Christian and unchristian world. Those kinds of things just don't happen; it was done in Divine judgment. And if you believe God would never do something like that, it is because you have never read through your Bible (with a good memory) even once. 2 Peter, chapter two gives a historical view of God dealing with sinners - both those that have known God and those that don't – and those that are just along for the ride and have no clue as to where they are going but seem to be willing to even die for their “cause.”

 

The real proof of creation is what everything is made of. Romans 1:20 (KJV) reveals the scientific answer when it says – concerning creation: the invisible things of God (atoms and molecules as well as His power and deity) are clearly seen, being understood by the things (objects) that are made – of course this includes principalities and powers in heaven and here on earth. It is by the power of His invisible deity that things are created and the ex nihilo-ist would be right if they weren't so wrong in saying, it all came from nothing. The scriptures and science seem to point to creation coming from within God rather than from without. 2 Corinthians 4:18 makes this very clear: “While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.” Adding to this is Gen 2:7: “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” And continuing the theme into the cosmos is Psalms 33:6, 9: 6.” By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. 9. For he spoke, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.” It all came out of Him, not nothing.

 

If God breathed into Adam's nostrils the breath of life and started his heartbeat, it was via the electricity that was manifested from the spirit, breathed into Adam from God. It doesn't come from nothing – it is the crossover from God's S pirit world to our physical reality. And when Adam died , that spirit went back to God (who gave it) and the body returned to the dust of the earth – Eccl 12:7.

 

The only way you could ever get something from nothing is if there was truly nothing in existence including God to begin with. In reference Romans 1:20 - His power (by way of His D eity) is how creation is possible and where the “invisible things of God” come from. Before they were visible, they were spirit (eternal) – and then made manifest to the world. Our spirits were known to God before we were in our mother's womb – Jer 1:5.

 

Only God can make the invisible to be visible and before that – what we see as non-existent, is brought into invisible existence (from God) and then made visible by cramming enough atoms together to make objects like a grain of “hourglass” sand or a rock or a mountain. Most of the universe is electrical via the atom. No electricity – no atom. No atom, no universe, no earth, no Adam – no nothing. Since electricity is neither self-generated nor self-sustaining, it has to have an eternal energy source and that energy source is God - not nothing.

 

With the possibilities of ex nihilo, the six-day creation would be an absurdity – pointless. Whether six days or instantaneous creation, you still have to have a step-by-step, first things first, construction – much like the construction of a house. You start with the foundation and work your way to the roof. The foundation of all creation is the electricity that powers the atom, specifically the charge of electricity that is on/in a particle that makes it an electron or a proton. That electricity comes from the power of God via His Spirit, just as it did from God to Adam – the difference being, Adam is made of atoms but his heart was specifically powered by the S pirit of God , being manifested by the electricity that energizes the heart.

 

The bottom-line, as we see it from our perspective is the electricity placed in or on particles. At this point, I'm not sure if – in the beginning – all particles started out as neutral – meaning no charge at all or they were equally balanced between the negative and positive but at any rate, this is where God started the manipulation process of electrons, protons and neutrons into atoms, molecules, elements, chemicals and eventually the pre-incarnate Christ and Christ armed with God's very Spirit – made all the rest of creation.

 

People can get pretty offended when you say; I can prove the existence of God. As ominous and conceded as that sounds , all I have done is to simply take the words and scientific proofs offered up by people that were seeking to find out where we came from, added that to information I have gleaned from the Bible over the last thirty some years and formulated those words and other information gained along the way in such a way as to prove the existence of God – to anyone with an open mind and willing to hear the truth . We can ultimately prove the existence of God through commonsense, math and electricity. Math says, 0+0=0, therefore math and commonsense says, you can't get something from nothing no matter how long you wait and electricity does not self-generate – it needs an energy source and energy in and of itself is not self-existent). Having said that; it is easier to prove the existence of God than it is to prove the non-existence of God – precisely because what we have learned through science. It's not what I proved, it's what everybody else proved and (some) didn't even know or realize it – I am just a clearinghouse for all that information – and not just I, but probably multiplied thousands of other people that most of the world will not listen to because of lack of credentials – that too can be a curse from God .

 

There are basically three different views on creation: 1. The atheists says, everything came from nothing, gradually over billions of years, or, all creation came from self-existing matter – which begs the question; if some dumb piece of matter could self-exist and accidentally create the universe and everything in it, why not an invisible all-intelligent all-powerful Creator? But I digress. 2. The ex nihilo-ist says, God created everything from nothing without the benefit of any preexisting material. 3. And I say that God created everything from within His own attributes – energy, light and what we would call the invisible things of God (subatomic particles) that are either with God constantly (as in light and life) or breathed over from His invisible-spirit realm to our physical realm.

 

Whereas the self-existence of God can produce anything according to His will, but if there were no God, all that would exist is nothing and therefore the self-existence of nothing could produce nothing. You can't get a quantum wrinkle (of any kind) from nothing. The scientific and mathematical improbabilities of something coming from nothing are even bigger than God Himself – even in consideration of ex nihilo because creation ex nihilo requires God to bring it about from literally nothing, even though that seems to stand against Romans 1:20 and 2 Cor 4:18 and others listed below. 

Nothing from nothing is nothing and nothing plus nothing still equals nothing. God is the only one that can create the subatomic particles and build an atom one electron, proton and neutron at a time - into whatever element(s) He desires. Those subatomic particles come from God's substance (which is what I would call raw energy) via His Spirit – and not from nothing. With God and dealing in matters of creation – there is no such thing as nothing.

 

When you understand the properties of electricity, you can see it for the miracle that it is. Electricity can't self-generate so it to has to come from an energy source somewhere, whereas the self-existence of God can produce everything in and at His will. Because you can't get something from nothing, we have no choice but to believe that there is a Supernatural Creator. And as long as you don't have a science degree it seems to be more easily understood – which only goes to prove that “they” think education can replace faith. With “them” its lies in and lies out. Ignorance is bliss and in this case it is God ordained even though they are very smart. They have been robbed of commonsense.

 

The energy of God is responsible for the existence of all subatomic particles and their subsequent activities, configuration and movement of the individual parts of the atom into the whole, not to mention the creation of any particles as a result of atomic activities whether natural or man-made.

 

In Halley's Bible Handbook, pg. 59 – Who made God? – Halley says: “Every child asks this question. And no one can answer it. There are some things beyond us. We cannot conceive of the Beginning of Time, nor the End of Time, nor the Boundaries of Space. The world has been in existence Always, or, it was Made out of Nothing; one, or the other; yet we can conceive of neither. This we know: the highest of all things within reach of our thinking is Personality, Mind and Intelligence. Where did it come from? Could the Inanimate create Intelligence? In FAITH we accept, as the Ultimate in our thinking, a Power higher than ourselves, GOD, in hope that someday, in the beyond, we shall understand the mysteries of existence.”

 

I would agree and disagree with Halley on several different fronts. Yes, just about every child would ask, where did God come from? Anyone can answer it by saying that He is self-existent but the problem comes with the person's inability to accept that answer particularly if polluted by science so-called that says, you can get something from nothing – which you can't. God has no beginning and no end and with Him, time has always existed. There are in fact, boundaries in space as expressed by Revelation 6:14 – which separate our earth and its heaven from the third heaven – the abode of God and His throne. As far as the world always being in existence or being made out of nothing, I disagree with both. Only the invisible God who is a Spirit could self-exist (2 Cor 4:18) and the actual world is built upon a foundation of invisible particles that God brought from within Himself and made (breathed) into a physical entity. From those particles, He made, shaped, squeezed, fashioned, molded and formed into atoms, molecules, elements and chemicals - into all creation.

 

Halley is absolutely right about inanimate matter not being able to create intelligence and thereby gives us one of the biggest proofs that there has to be a God to bring about all creation. When Halley says and asks, “This we know: the highest of all things within reach of our thinking is Personality, Mind and Intelligence. Where did it come from? Could the Inanimate create Intelligence?” Obviously to most rational people the answer is no. The Word and our words come from the spiritual realm and not the temporal (2 Cor 4:18). A rock can't talk or walk and never will without supernatural help, but there are those among us who insist that the inanimate came out of nothing and intelligence came out of the inanimate . Isn't it funny that “they” don't get a chuckle out of that kind of miracle? And they even know , when every physical thing is broken down to its lowest common denominator, it keeps getting smaller and more invisible and truly appears to come out of nothing, which would more accurately reflect a spiritual origin and not temporal. When examining this “break down” process, it appears that something does indeed come from nothing, by the sheer magnitude of quantum science. The magic word here is “appears.” Because they appear to have no faith in God and have faith in nothing, and that, to them, is obviously where everything comes from. They need to put on their spiritual glasses. And Christians succumb to this same idea except they believe in God as the creator and nothing as the material.

 

As just mentioned, it's all a matter of Faith – correct faith vs. incorrect faith. The incorrect faith of evolutionists tells us that everything comes into existence from nothing all by itself over billions of years or, original matter or some type of super – compacted nucleus was just sitting there all on its own. And that is the great hope science holds onto – that someday it will be proven and that is why they continue to spend billions of (tax payers) dollars to find out where we came from rather than just accept the real truth – that we are a creation of God. Something from nothing or some type of self-existing nucleus is an act of desperation, which stands as a witness against them and the results will be discussed a little later as they relate to the whole - of Romans chapter 1.

 

Its all important to them to “find life” on another planet, because it will somehow prove there is no God. Conversely, if we never find life on other planets, will they then believe in God? Don't hold your breath. All life comes from God (who is life) – no matter where, when or how it is found. The right kind of thinking does not include, something from nothing without a supernatural connection. Faith may be the hope of the hopeless but evolution is the hope of the desperate and deluded. Prove there is no God and you can get on with enjoying life. No rules, just right – wrong!

 

When we hear the words: “where did God come from,” that is a natural question but the answer doesn't seem to be very well accepted – “He was just there.” “They” have accepted the myth that self-existing matter could have just been there, but they refuse to believe that God could have just been there. The existence of God is the absolute truth, but on the intellectual level they seem to need something more tangible to hold on to even though they have done a pretty good job proving “how” we came into existence – from “the invisible things” of God; and as mentioned before, and they don't even know it.”

 

On the other hand when people ask, “where did we come from,” some will say, “we evolved.” And when you say, “from what,” some will say, “pre-existing matter.” When you ask, “where did that come from,” some will say, “it was just there.” It is amazing just how many people will accept that as an answer and go about their merry way and reject the real truth that God was just there. That is rebellion to God in its rawest form. The big bang, either from “nothing” or pre-existing matter is a well-accepted universal answer for creation today, but is it the right answer? If you accept that as an answer, this may be a sign that you are cursed by God - to believe a lie rather than the truth. But in all fairness to the big bang, who is to say that God didn't introduce neutral particles and/or electrons and protons into existence, in a spectacular way that we have come to call the big bang. You have to admit that creation is a big deal and a spectacular announcement would be proper and in order. The big bang could be nothing less that the manifestation of subatomic particles from God's Eternal realm to our temporal realm.

 

Is it even possible for God to get everything from nothing? If that sounds like blaspheme, it's not meant to any more than it is to say, God can't save everyone. Hell is going to be full of people and rebellious angels that God couldn't save and knowing and accepting this truth would have saved the Dark Age church a lot of bloodshed and abominable activity supposedly in God's name – which did nothing but offend the non-believing world unto this day , and has given Christ an undeserved black eye . His saving anyone is not up to Him, it is up to us. He offers - we either accept or reject the offer.

 

If God can't or doesn't create everything from nothing, then it stands as a testimony to the fact that everything comes from God and not merely by Him, and best seems to answer the scriptures and science as pertains to creation and what creation is made up of.

 

In the realm of God, He can do anything, and it's certainly possible for God to create everything from nothing to the best of our understanding, but did He or did He not? God manifests Himself to us through various ways and manifestation seems to be the “key” word that links us to God's invisible realm. It is a matter of transition from God's invisible S pirit realm to our physical realm.

 

Everything comes from God and God's power and is manifested by the Spirit to His glory. God's Spirit in us is manifested by the electricity that keeps our heart beating. There is a transition from His Spirit world to our realm touched on by the word, manifested. Manifest (5319 – to render apparent). It is not only made apparent but it is an actual transition from S pirit to electricity, and when we die [our spirit] reverts back to the S pirit and it goes back to God who gave it. Life and even death is an on-going miracle.

 

Is God somehow less God if He creates something from within Himself and the manifestation system rather than from nothing? When does a miracle cease to be a miracle? Is our definition and expectation of a miracle over and above that of God's? In reality, everything has to come from something and since God is/was the only existing entity in existence before anything else, everything had to come from Him and not necessarily just by Him - as in from nothing – ex nihilo. It just so happens that God is an invisible Spirit with miraculous powers to make different things manifest – from His world to ours. Particles are manifested or transitioned over from God's realm to ours. Particles have to be one of the manifested entities just like the S pirit is manifested into the electricity of the atom, heart and earth. If the electricity in the atom stops, everything disappears or at least goes back to neutral or free floating particles. If the electricity in our heart stops, we die and if the electricity in the earth disappears, the earth will become uninhabitable. Where does that electricity come from – seeing that electricity can't generate itself? I say it comes from God and not nothing.

 

As I just mentioned, we ascribe powers to God that He may not claim and that is nothing new. Most people have no idea about what “manifest” means or does as pertains to the transition from His invisible world to our physical world. A couple of examples are: Manifestation of God's light (as in God is light) is in particles, waves and mental enlightenment. The manifestation of God's Spirit is into electricity – and is a manifestation of His energy and power. God's Spirit is in us and is manifested through and by the electricity, which keeps the heart beating and atoms being atoms instead of being free floating electrons, protons, neutrons or some other subatomic particles.

 

The following small paragraph is from Wayne Grudem's, Systematic Theology – “The word nothing does not imply some kind of existence, as some philosophers have taken it to mean. We mean rather that God did not use any previously existing materials when He created the universe.” (Which is what 2 Cor 4:18 says) see scriptures just below. The universe was brought into existence by the Word of God. The Word of God comes out of the mouth of God. Psalms 33:6, 9 says, “By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and all their host ( pay attention) by the breath of his mouth…” “By the breath of His mouth” indicates to me that it came from within God. On a cold day you can see the signature of one's breath. You can't see it (its atoms and molecules) until it hits the cold air. I think Ps 33:6, 9 is a good example of not being able to see something until it is manifested and it proves that it came from God and not nothing. Electricity is a manifestation of His very Spirit. “For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood forth,” remembering the - from Spirit to electricity format previously mentioned. I think this is why many Christian people think that everything was poofed into existence – if they even think about it at all. And with creation ex nihilo, which is the way it would have to have been, to be done. There has to be some correlation here between this scripture and those that speak of God's handiwork. This is where God's timing and the “speed of God” come into play as pertains to the universe. A good example was previously mentioned when I said: “ From those particles, He made, shaped, squeezed, fashioned, molded and formed into atoms, molecules, elements and chemicals into all creation.” These words are a description of what God did when He made creation, which speak to His handiwork and not just poofing everything into existence from nothing. He had to have something to work with, which came from Him not nothing. The “Word” emanates from inside God just like His breath in the above example about breathing into cold air. When Genesis says, God “formed” man from the dust of the earth, the Hebrew word (3335) means to, squeeze into shape and mould into a form. Psalms 90:2, the Hebrew word for “formed” (2342) means to; “twist or whirl in a circular manner – to dance, to writhe.” You can see by these words that creation was a whole more complicated than – poof. You might say that creation was a labor of love – because God is love.

 

Another thing we need to understand is the difference between the omnipresence of God and the various speeds of God and the speed of light and a static position as applies to the size of the universe. God moving at the infinite speed of God, would be a number just under the fastest actual speed He can go, which would be the number just before the moment of omnipresence. With the omnipresent God, the universe is zero in size. With God moving at the speed of light, the universe is huge and with God at rest, the universe (seemingly) goes on forever. Time and speed are in God's control. Time had no beginning because to say that, you deny the existence of God for however long He has been around – which is forever and that is a long time by anybodies standard. To deny second by second time is to call God brain dead as though He sits in heaven like a bump on a log, with no thinking on His part – now that would be blaspheme. I think it's only fair to speculate that long before God created anything, He, no doubt thought about it for an unknown amount of time. And when you look at the intricacies the human cells, make up of a human eye, and all the rest of the numerous species of plants and animals, He no doubt spent some time and thought before bringing it about. I like to visualize God as having a shop, lab and a studio, where He planned and designed and eventually created every non-living and living thing.

 

In relation to time, we then need to get into the issue of what I call (the possibilities of), time-lapse creation. This is addressed with; “one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years are as one day,” (Psa 90:4 and 2 Pet 3:8). I only bring this up to highlight God's many dimensions and non-limitations. We are still dealing with a twenty-four hour day, concerning creation activities of the earth as relates to this side of the gap theory (don't panic keep reading) – remembering the earth (Gen 1:2) was without form and void and dark, so we don't know how long it was in that condition and what the condition and circumstances were before that time, but are were given a hint in Jer 4:23-26 and Isa 24:1 and 45:18. We tend to limit God's activities to that which surrounds us and our understanding of the creation and what we perceive to be God's intentions, with us in mind and the future. We fail to realize there were many years of God dealing with the pre-incarnate Christ, the angels and other heavenly creatures, probably long before we came onto the scene and had well-established relationships long before the ugly scene in the Garden of Eden. Speaking of that ugly scene in the garden and not meaning to get off the subject, but the tempting of Eve by the serpent could be construed by some to be an act of sin, even before Eve partook of the forbidden fruit – just a thought, that may give more perspective into the time frame and activities of the angelic world that I think pre-existed the recreated world and the time frame of Adam. We have to remember, we were a creation of the pre-incarnate Christ as God gave Him the power and ability to do creation. I marvel at the number of people who side step the gap theory and yet struggle to explain what the above-mentioned scriptures seem to be saying not to mention the whole existence of the angelic world .

 

If God did poof everything from nothing, why would He even need six seconds let alone six days or even six ages to do creation? I think this fact disproves creation - ex nihilo as well as it proves time-lapse creation and the infinite speed of God so the ages are also not necessary for things to develop on their own. Having said that; it sure seems possible that the time when the Spirit of God moved (brooded) upon the face of the waters, could have been a time when whatever was under the face of the waters was making coal, oil and sedimentary rock formations for however long a period of time that the earth was without form, void and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And this sedimentary rock build-up was in addition and previous to the flood of Noah. I don't know why creationists overlook the word moved (brooded) and not realize that if a hen sits (broods) upon her eggs, there are developmental things happening to those eggs and they are not just sitting there for a moment of transition as they seem to think of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 as though God was in some big hurry. And even if God did create the earth in the conditions of 1:2, it is absurd to overlook the word “moved” in the very same verse, especially when the rest of the creation days were written in their proper order and what creation (in the time of six days) must have looked like to anyone observing the creation as God must have been, if in fact that He was the only one there, other that His Son, who according to John 1:1-14 was doing the actual creation. We have to stop and think for a moment what the actual creation time and activity must have looked like considering how long it takes for things to grow (as in what the cattle had to eat and the fruit trees that Adam and Eve had to tend) in their natural state and remember that those six days were as big of miracle as is the time-lapse creation and speed of God, which I espouse.

 

If we could see every step and process of creation from the beginning – from the moment God breathed out the first particles and their subsequent development into everything we see today, we would see one of three things: (1) evolution, (2) poofing or (3) hands-on creation. It depends on whose glasses you are looking through. It's like when I'm working on the computer and I mouse over to a symbol that when clicked on, will reveal every space and paragraph marking. Until you click on that symbol, all you see is words in paragraphs without any space or paragraph markings. Paul makes an apt illustration in 1 Corinthians 13:12 – “For now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as I am also known.” And also in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4, about the man that was caught up into the third heaven where he heard unspeakable words that he was not allowed to repeat. People of faith can see things that people of the world cannot [- This is where 2 Cor 4:18 comes in.] That in itself is no real problem until the people of the world form powerful alliances in academia, the media and politics, which stand against the truth of God and His Word and make laws which inhibit the free exercise of true faith and not just religion. And what is atheistic evolution but just another religion? It takes a lot more faith that “we” have, to believe that everything that makes-up all creation was either “just there” or came from nothing, all by itself. “They” call us nuts, but their kind of faith borders on severe mental illness and delusion.

 

Ex nihilo is like an “under the sun” issue, such as found in the ” invisible things of God.” The Catholic Church made similar mistakes with its understanding of scripture as they related to the universe and the movement of the planets. The same (or similar) church Fathers that believed ex nihilo also condemned Copernicus and Galileo for teaching that the sun was the center of our solar system. They would excommunicate you (or worse) if you tried to say the sun was the center of our solar system, which, as it turns out, is true – just ask Copernicus and Galileo. The “church” also changed Passover to Easter and made pagan sun worship into the birth of Christ – which they came to call Christmas. They also promoted the “eternal trinity” (vs. the real trinity) with scriptural misinterpretations and additions such as 1 John 5:7. So I think we pretty much have to go to the source on this one (creation) and that source is the Bible and any scientific information that tends to agree with it.

 

In summary:

 

Rom 1:20 teaches that the existence of that which is made is based on invisible particles and thereby proves where and how it comes from and highlights the Creator's ultimate power and creative ability. We should at least have commonsense enough to know that it is God that does it no matter how it is done. Most of the newer Bible translations, make it sound like the invisible things of God are strictly His power and deity but seem to ignore, “the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made , (which obviously include and would be impossible without ) His power and deity”… The universe and the earth are made from invisible atoms and molecules and they were, in turn, are made into elements and chemicals. Thanks to science, reversing that order, it takes us from visible things (seen everyday) back to invisible things, which only a Supernatural God could produce, and not just by time and accident. “Being understood by the things that are made ,” is the key part “the translations” roll over and thereby rob Romans 1:20 of its real scientific power, wonder and witness. Anybody believing in the true God already knows He is D eity and that He has power and is invisible. Not many, if any, knew anything about atoms and molecules and their relationship to creation. And I sure don't mean to leave out any of the rest of the subatomic and elementary particles that played a part in creation, that are also to be considered “ the invisible things of God.”

 

And because His power and deity are so evident, I think the word “even” in the KJV of Romans 1:20 should be translated, “BY,” as in, the world is created by Him from the invisible things of God. But then again, without His deity, He would not only have no power to turn the invisible things into rocks and such, but He wouldn't even be able to produce those invisible things to begin with.

 

Commonsense tells us that God is the only way you could ever have a chance to get something from nothing but the scriptures are telling us that everything comes from within God and not “poofed” out of nothing.

 

It is not His power and Deity that makes everything evident, it is what He has created with the power that His deity produces. He was Deity long before His power was evident – to us.

 

God (in the distant past) had all spirits and all creation within Him to some degree or other. God has all spirits within Him as well as anything else that He wants created and brought into our physical realm. It's like an artist with a song, painting, sculpture or anything else in his mind until it is brought over into the physical realm where we can hear or see it.

 

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SCRIPTURES

 

Here are some scriptures to keep in mind when considering what you have just read and before continuing on into the subsequent essays. Please read them and keep them in mind.

 

Gen 2:7. And the LORD God formed (3335) man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. ( Breath 5397 nshamah - puff, wind, soul, spirit. )

 

Deut 29:29 – The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

 

Deut 30:20 - …for He is thy life, and the length of thy days…

 

Job 12:10 – In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

 

Job 21:14-15 (actually 7-15) 14. Therefore they say unto God, depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of they ways. 15. What is the Almighty, that we should serve Him? And what profit should we have, if we pray unto Him? Allow me to say, this is the classic, biting of the hand that feeds them.

Job 26:13 – By His Spirit He hath garnished (8235 - brightness) the heavens; His hand hath formed (2342 – to twist or whirl) the crooked serpent.

 

Job 27:3 - All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils…

 

Job 28:20 – Whence cometh wisdom, and where is the place of understanding?

 

Job 33:4, 6 – The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty has given me life. …I also am made of clay.

 

Job 36:26 – Behold, God is great, and we know Him not, neither can the number of His years be searched out.

 

Job 37:10. By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.

 

Psalms 33:6, 9. 6. By the word of the LORD were the heavens made (6213 - fashion) ; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. 9. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. Breath (7307) ruwach – wind, breath, spirit.

 

Ps 104:29. You hide your face, and they are troubled: you take away their breath; they die, and return to their dust.

 

Ps 104:30. You send forth your spirit, they are created: and you renew the face of the earth.

 

Pro 20:27. The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD…

 

Eccl 12:7. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was; and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 

Amos 5:8 – Seek Him that maketh the seven stars of Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, an poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is His name.

 

Zech 12:1. …saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

 

Matthew 3:9. For I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. See Eccl 12:7.

 

Matthew 3:16. The heavens were opened unto Him…The Spirit of God descending…

 

John 1:3. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

 

John 5:26. For as the Father has life in Himself; so has He given to the Son to have life in Himself.

 

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein…

 

Acts 17:25 …seeing He gives to all life, and breath, and all things.

 

Acts 17:28. For in Him we live, and move, and have our being…for we are the offspring of God.

 

Rom 1:20. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power (force) and Deity.

 

Rom 11:33-34, 36. O the depth of the riches both of wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments, and His ways past finding out! 34. For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been His counselor? 36. For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever.

 

Rom 11:36. For of Him and through Him and to Him, are all things…

 

1 Cor 2:5. That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

 

2 Cor 4:18. While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

 

2 Cor 5:7 For we walk by faith not by sight.

 

Eph 4:6. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

 

Col 1:15-17. (Speaking of Jesus) -15. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16. For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him: 17. And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.

 

1 Tim 3:16. …God was manifest in the flesh…

 

Heb 3:4. For every house is built by some man; but He that built (2680 – to prepare thoroughly) all things is God.

 

Heb 11:1-3. 1. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

2. For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed (2675 – to complete, thoroughly, ie. Repair or adjust, frame, mend, prepare, restore) by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear – (5316 – to lighten (shine) show. This refers back to Rom 1:20 and 2 Cor 4:18. Verse 3 might be the best hope there is for creation ex nihilo but there is more to the word, “Word” than appears. Before the Word (which was in God) came out, when it came out, it came out as His breath, which (I think) is an expression of the transition or manifestation from God's invisible, Spirit realm to our physical, temporal realm, as in Psalm 33:6 (see above).

 

The invisible things of God (Rom 1:20) are not visible, but they are there and they have been formed into atoms, which have been compacted together tightly enough to become visible elements, depending on the numbers of electrons, protons and neutrons put together to form the various elements.

 

You can see by these scriptures there is a connection between the Spirit of God and creation that touches on things coming from God rather than nothing. I say it is the Spirit that gives God's energy to the particles of the atom (electrons and protons and neutrons if they (neutrons) are indeed charged) and direct hands-on manipulation (by God) that forms the various molecules, elements and chemicals into all creation. It all starts with the Spirit of God as mentioned in 2 Cor. 4:18, and not nothing.

 

The bottom line is that you have to accept something by faith. Either, everything evolved from nothing or God created everything and not from nothing (like I used to believe and teach, and was no doubt previously taught as relates to the word Ex Nihilo) but from within God Himself. Acts 17:28 says, “For in Him we live, and move, and have our being”… And as stated above - Ephesians 4:6 – “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” If He is in us then we are in Him to some degree or other and certainly from Him. And if God was in Jesus and Jesus was in God as stated by John 14:10, I think this could be fair assumption as applied to us and our closeness to Him.

 

John 5:26 really tends to prove the impossibility of ex nihilo – “For as the Father has life in Himself; so has He given to the Son to have life in Himself.” Life is not something that God made or created – it was already in Him and He gave Jesus the same disposition. It did not come out of nothing; it already existed with the rest of God's attributes as in the God “is” list. God is Spirit, life, light, truth, love and wisdom are among the attributes readily found in the Bible but we need to include the ones found by reason of science and commonsense: God is time, energy, eternity, knowledge (science), infinity and probably a host of others I can't even begin to imagine or remember. The substance of God is not nothing or just Spirit, it moves into all of life itself and everything life is made up of. We have life because He is “in” us and we are in Him. God is where we came from – not nothing. The fact that God is light and life and the fact that we are here in our present bodies – made of and by the very attributes of God, proves we came from Him and not nothing. The universe and everything in it derives its very existence and continued existence from the energy of God.

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SUBSEQUENT ESSAYS

Subsequent essays are more of what you have just read but with different thoughts, insights and information gained along the way and different ways of stating it for the greatest chance to get across just what it is that the Bible and science says about creation.

 

Before reading the subsequent essays, I need to say something about Romans 1:20 and the “invisible things” of God as stated in the KJV and the “invisible qualities and attributes” of God, as stated in the various translations. The translations negate the real scientific power of Romans 1:20 and relegate “the invisible things of God” to that which we already know about His attributes, power and Deity – that they are in fact, invisible. What the other translations slide over is what science has proven - that “the invisible things” of God, are understood by “the things that are made.” Because everything that is, is made out of invisible particles, which come from electricity.

 

Romans 1:20 tells us:” For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made , [even] His eternal power and (Godhead) Deity.”

 

I prefer the KJV except for the “Godhead” business and the word “even”. The other translations beat a dead horse by telling us that those “invisible things of God” are His invisible qualities or attributes and then turn right around and restate it again as, His power and deity. They ignore the whole middle of the verse. They are thereby dogmatically telling us that the invisible things (of God) referred to, are His invisibility and power; when in fact, the KJV is telling us things what science has discovered over the years - that being - that matter, is made of invisible atoms, which are made of electrons, protons and neutrons (and/or whatever is smaller than them) – all invisible to the naked eye and all of them coming from God and not nothing.

 

“Being understood by the things that are made,” is the key to the whole thing. What are “things” made of? They are made of invisible particles and where do they come from? They come from (the Word of) God, not nothing and Psalms 33:6, 9: tells us; 6 - By the word of the LORD were the heavens made (6213 - fashion); and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth (which is by definition, something) - Breath (7307) ruwach – wind, breath, spirit . 9. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. There is also continual power, making sure that it stands fast – as in holding the universe and everything in it together.

 

Everything comes from and through the Spirit (of God). The electricity (subatomic particles) from which everything is made, is manifested from the energy that is God, as in, God is light (as in photons which are ultimately electricity) and furthermore - our heartbeats are a result of the truth and the fact that; “God is life.” He is life and has given us life. If “life,” which God is, is then bestowed upon us – making us living, breathing persons, then “God is light” has to be treated in the same way in that; light and the subsequent electrical entities (subatomic particles and such) also came from Him and did not come from nothing. Both dispositions of (light and life) come from God – not nothing.

 

Everything comes from God and it is made physical from the transition, from Spirit to physical, which is implied in 2 Cor 4:18 – “While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.” Those “eternal things” are real, precisely because they come from God and His power and are not made out of a “literal” nothing. It's literally the Spirit being made manifest to our reality.

 

And in reference to the word “even; it would be better if the word, ”even” was translated, “by,” because it is by His (invisible) power (by reason of His invisible Deity) that anything physical exists. It is no wonder that the translators used the word “even,” given their lack of understanding of what the middle of the verse was actually saying about - what everything is made up of. The mistake in the KJV is bad enough but the various translations are adding insult to injury, and as I say; they are beating a dead horse by telling us something about God that is all ready well known – He is invisible and He is powerful.

 

The substance of Romans 1:20 is; this rock which I hold in my hand is made of invisible particles. And those particles come from God by His power, by reason of His Deity and not just because He is invisible.

ESSAY 1

You can't commit to God if you don't know He exists and to that end - I seek to follow the Bible story about the leavening of the meal as my example for the spread of my works around the world. The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven…hid in three measures of meal – till the whole was leavened.” This is what I want to do with the collegeofbiblestudy.com website. I hid it on the World Wide Web and it is available to the whole world.

 

The following essays are different ways of saying the same thing. At different points of time in the development of creation ex nihilo, different ways of saying the same thing came to me and I built the differing but similar themes as original thoughts. There are a lot of good and powerful points made in all the various essays and someday I hope to edit all the essays into one text and make it as brief as possible and still remain faithful to the idea that different people may hear the same message from differing texts, similar to the pattern of what we read and pick up on, in the gospels and other books throughout the Bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John basically tell the same story and creationally, I am trying to do the same thing.

 

I think there is what you'd call a magic formula of words that can cut through to the soul when trying to convince people about the existence of God and creation, just as the scriptures can reach through to someone who cares enough to read or hear them. This, of course, is predicated upon the proposition that the Holy Spirit is moving them to hear what is being said. No combination of words will ever reach people God does not want reached.

Of the Bible, that most atheists get (from other atheists), is a selection of passages that are hard to understand, seem to contradict, cause offense, and are taken out of context, that knock, mock or otherwise try to tear down God or any understanding of Him. The scriptures have to be taken as a whole, and therein is the blessing and the curse. If you lack the patience enough to read them but rely on others to do it for you, you are possibly under a curse. You depend on man to tell what the scriptures are saying and not necessarily the Holy Spirit. Whether you can read or not, you rob yourself of power that God intended you to have and that is why Christians have always been in the forefront of education – both in print and voice recorded. If you are educated and choose not to read the Bible, you open yourself up to other's interpretations and rob yourself of a direct line to God via the Holy Spirit. In the Christian realm, you can either be a pulpit baby or a Bible baby.

 

We have to learn to quit throwing God out with the bathwater. Every time something comes up that makes evolution seem true, we just have to say; “you can't get something from nothing.” We also have to realize that evolution was given in judgment, and you can tell that, by the way it is written about and promoted by academia and the media. God has not necessarily made it easy to follow Him as is made clear by John 6:53-66.

 

I personally choose to believe the Bible stories. If I'm wrong, and they never happened, it only means God is using fictional stories to tell a greater truth. Even if there was no Noah's ark, it doesn't mean there is no God. And if Noah's ark is ever found, “they” will still find an excuse to reject God. Satan (at one time) served God and still rebelled against Him. And I think that that rebellion is the seed of our rebellion to God and the polarity that we see in elections and the divide in commonsense, which allows one person to see abortion as a blessing and another to see it as a curse.

 

We (they) don't speculate at all on the side of God, but we (they) speculate plenty on the side of getting something from nothing and the greater miracle, that that would really have to be.

 

If you want something to be your religion - let this be your religion; “you can't get something from nothing.” “Something from nothing” is a physiological, mathematical and scientific impossibility. This tells us that there has to be a Creator and the rest of creation has to have been done with some purpose in mind other than dog-eat-dog and survival of the fittest. The Golden Rule cannot spring out of spontaneous generation.

 

God is light, which ultimately comes down to; God is energy. God is the energy source of the universe and out of that energy source comes the universe and everything in it, as well as the energy it takes to hold it together.

 

In reference to creation ex nihilo: I don't like to say that God can't do something (like creation ex nihilo) but I don't think anything can possibly exist without the energy of God bringing it into existence and sustaining it as well. Creation does not come from nothing; it comes from energy and energy in and of itself, cannot self-exist.

 

Getting something from nothing is not scientifically, philosophically, intellectually, mathematically or realistically even possible and that's why God did not do “creation ex nihilo” to bring it about. It came out of His energy. Energy in and of itself is not self-existent but it is the hallmark of God.

 

I want to tell Christians and non-Christians alike, you can't get something from nothing, all by itself, no matter how long you wait, because God didn't even do it that way – Creation came out of His energy and was manifested by “the invisible things of God” (Rom 1:20) as they were transitioned or made manifest from the “eternal” realm into our “temporal” realm (2 Cor 4:18).

 

We (greater society) doubt God and creation and then make up things about where and how we/they came from, and then put it textbooks and make kids take tests, wherein they have to get those answers correct or they don't get their degrees. The fox is truly watching the chicken coop.

 

Why would a Supernatural Being bother to create anything if He didn't expect or want something in return? He doesn't want “blind” obedience; He wants “faith-full” obedience, born of intelligence and not superstition, prejudice, materialism and lies, of which both Christians and non-Christians are guilty.

 

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ESSAY 2

 

In the matter of ex nihilo – from or out of nothing: Where does ex nihilo (Latin word or equivalent) appear in the Bible? It could also be a matter of misperception by the theologians not understanding the true nature of God and the invisible particles – that I say, had to start with (within) Him by reason of His energy as in, God is light and God is life. Light and life are forms of existence that emanate from the Spirit of God. See Creation Essay at the bottom pgs. 114-118.

 

By things that the Church Fathers allowed in the canon of scripture and/or changed, proves to me that they may have misunderstood God and His “invisible things” and where it is that they come from, and I think the secret is in the word: “manifested.” Godhead, in Romans 1:20 is a good example of Trinitarian thinking – “For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead .” Notice they put the word “Godhead” in place of Deity. It is God's power, by way of His Deity – which is what it took to make “those things” visible. Hebrews 11:3 also touch on this issue of God's power: “Through faith we understand that the worlds ( the ages were planned) were framed (2675 – to complete thoroughly) by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear ” ( 5316 from the base of 5457 – to shine or make manifest). The creation is made from the invisible things of God, not nothing.

 

Another possible “oversight” that affects the proper translation of Rom 1:20 is, that the word “ even ” (in Rom 1:20) would have been translated; “by” (His eternal power and deity) because there is no Greek word for “ even ” just as there is no Greek word for “things.” Heb 11:3, 2 Cor 4:18 and Romans 1:20 all fit together to paint a true picture of what creation is made up of. To say that they (rocks and such) are made up of the (invisible) attributes of God seems to say that He is made up of subatomic particles. I have already speculated as to those possibilities (in another essay) but it then robs God of His (eternal) existence in 2 Cor 4:18 – the eternal realm vs. the temporal realm, and that which we are to be looking for.

 

Another aspect of God's eternal existence is the trinity as being the third part of, “Let us create man in our image.” The only part of “us” is God and Jesus. I am not aware that the Holy Spirit has an image, whereas God (that dealt with Moses – Ex 33:18-23) and the pre-incarnate Jesus (that dealt with Abraham – Gen 18:1-33) did have. God, who created the pre-incarnate Jesus, stepped out of His Spirit (so-to-speak) and took on a visage and it was them who created man in their image. It is, in my opinion, they who (in these two bodies) enjoyed fellowship with each other on the earth (made by the pre-incarnate Christ) as it was the footstool to God's throne (in the third heaven, and was at some (later time) destroyed by God in judgment and is where the narrative of Gen 1:2 starts.

 

The various versions of Rom 1:20 rob the KJV it of its true power. By calling “the invisible things of Him,” attributes, does not fit with that which (things in creation) are made up of, as mentioned above in Heb 11:3 (“so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear”). The things in this universe (like the Pet Rock) are ultimately made up of invisible, subatomic particles, which are made into atoms and then made into rocks and such. In the Strong's Concordance, there is no word for “things,” as in, “the invisible things of God,” so to change “invisible things” to “attributes” tells nothing of what the Pet Rock is made of, in its lowest common denominator of material existence. That material existence comes directly from God's Eternal Energy – without which, nothing could be in physical existence. I think that the “attributes” of God are more in line with the God “is” list, than they are with subatomic particles – of which, come out of His Eternal Energy.

 

Compare the differences:

 

KJV: Rom 1:20. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead (Deity) so that they are without excuse.

 

The New American Standard: Rom 1:20 – For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so they are without excuse.

 

 

As far as I'm concerned, this and other such versions, cloud the true power of Rom 1:20.

 

My version would read: For the invisible things of God from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, by His Eternal Power and Deity, so that they are without excuse.

 

At any rate and getting back to it; I think the substance of the pre-incarnate Christ and that of angels and other heavenly creatures is essentially the same as ours but can be handled differently which allows them to appear and disappear at will and to attain the speed of God when commuting back and fourth from the third heaven to earth. It is all a matter of particles and their dispersement (as it were). However God got the particles (that make up atoms) into our here-and-now is where the ex nihilo debate really begins.

 

They (the ex nihilo-ist) say that the particles (of which creation is made) came into existence from nothing, by the power of God. I say, the particles came from within God (as in, God is life and light) in the same way that the spirit was breathed into Adam – from the mouth of God and was then made manifest in Adam by the electricity that keeps Adam's heart beating as well as His power of keeping atoms in existence. Remove the electricity and the atoms disappear, remove the spirit from man and life disappears from him. It's a transition thing – from the Being and realm of God, to ours, and it comes through the spiritual/electrical realm. Psalms 33:6 further backs up this theory – “By the Word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the hosts of them by the breath of His mouth” - not nothing. It's in the transition from Him to us – His world to our world. Or as it says in 2 Cor 4:18; the eternal world of God supercedes our temporal world. There is some sort of substance in the “breath of His mouth,” that is obviously made manifest in our physical reality – I think it is the point of transition or manifestation. I don't know if it's ether or dark matter or the subatomic particles or some other thing we don't know of or understand as of yet or if we ever will, but it has to come into existence (at some point) in the transition from the eternal into the temporal.

 

Physical creation is not just something poofed into existence from thin air (or empty space) by the “power” of God into our realm - it comes directly from God who ultimately is – our realm – remember, “For in Him we live, and move, and have our being.” Everything in existence before it is made manifest, is within God's realm and He simply makes it visible through the transition or manifestation process. It's like Hebrew's 11:1 - definition of faith: Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Now, add to that, verse 3 – Through faith we understand… Manifested means - made to appear – from that which (God) was already, and we are out of. It's like God knowing us before we are in our mother's womb.

 

Another proof or point around ex nihilo would be the fact that if God removed the electricity from the atom it would disappear and the only thing that would possibly be left is what I call free floating, empty and/or neutral particles, but even neutral particles are something and are held in existence by God. At this point one has to ask the question; are neutral particles really nothing less than the substance of the invisible God? Irrespective of electricity, I think the Spirit is the key to the existence of all particles and once again, electricity is manifested from the Spirit of God. Creation is a transition thing and not something from nothing – which is what the (above) scriptures seem to be saying. Everything comes out of God's energy and being – His existence. It's like the incarnation. Mary was apparently made pregnant from nothing – whereas, in reality, Christ was passed along through the Holy Spirit from the Power of the Highest – who is God – not the Holy Spirit specifically or directly. Jesus is the Son of God, not the Holy Spirit. Jesus was not from nothing; He was from the bosom of God, through or by the Holy Spirit. This is one of those misinterpreted scriptures (Lk 1:35) involving the eternal trinity as was/is the word “Godhead” found in Romans 1:20, which should have read Deity.

 

The same people that say the Holy Spirit is God also say that Mary is the Mother of God and this gets into the whole realm of God being Jesus instead of the other way around.

 

The invisible Word became flesh – not, was already flesh. It came from the invisibility of God into our view by the above-mentioned processes through a transition and manifestation. The flesh came out of spirit and not nothing and 2 Cor 4:18 is the proof of that. It became visible to our realm and not from nothing but from the invisible spirit world, much like the spirit in our body is manifested by the electricity that keeps our heart beating. When that spirit is withdrawn, it returns to God who gave it and our body returns to dust – Eccl 12:7. And also Eccl 3:20-21.

 

If Rom 1:20 applies to proof of matter coming from invisible particles, it also proves that those particles came from God via His power and energy (not as with poofed into existence) but that which came through His spoken (God breathed) Word and not “nothing.” The breath of God is the Spirit that brings substance and life from His realm to ours. If God can breathe life into a body of dust and that breath is manifested by the electricity that starts and keeps the heart beating, then it seems probable that the physical world comes out of the same energy that we know as God and not something that God poofed into existence from literally nothing. All things visible and invisible come from God and that is the “magic” phrase – from God, not nothing. If Jesus is the author and the finisher of our faith, He is the author and finisher of our existence as well.

 

They (the things created) can arguably be said to have been placed in nothing providing that there is no such thing as “ether” or “dark matter” or some other entity that occupies “empty space,” that we can't see or detect. And considering that God fills all existence including our universe as well as the third heaven and any other heavens that may exist beyond that, then there is no such thing as “ nothing ” because He is everywhere - which may be exhibited by ether or free floating or neutral particles or dark matter or some other unknown quantity. His omnipresence may make “the speed of God” a moot point but we have to know and remember that the highest speed of God is just one click under His omnipresence and the slowest is just one click over God at rest.

 

When someone says; He didn't use anything existing to make that which the whole universe and we are made of, it should not be perceived as creation ex nihilo, it only goes to show and prove that we came out of His Word and breath and were not just poofed into existence from nothing and is further proven by the build-up from particles to chemicals and the transition from eternal to temporal. And make no mistake; there is a transition. The profound order of and makeup of everything in existence only goes to prove it had to have a beginning in something other than nothing and that “something,” being God (the invisible Spirit). In Him we have our being…forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God… Acts 17:28. Ephesians 4:6 says, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all and in you all. You can see then by these scriptures our existence isn't so casual as starting from nothing. Remember the difference between temporal and eternal, between Spirit and electrical. God is the beginning of us.

 

We, like darkness, can't comprehend the existence of God or electricity and where it really comes from and that's the whole point. No one really knows what electricity is – only what it does. When we see it as an entity of God, then we begin to understand the miracle and the mystery of existence.

 

A recent Paul Harvey Jr. morning update stated: “Dark matter and dark energy, for example which make up some 96% of everything there is - practically all of the so-called universe is invisible, untouchable, and we are barely aware that it is there… Max Tegmar (unsure of spelling) says that the universe is made of math and only math. There is only mathematics, that is all that exists and the rest is an illusion.” That really fits the 2 Cor 4:18 model.

 

Creation Moments also had an interesting comment on math as well, on their website: “Mathematics more than anything else reflects the fabric of the universe.” And further; “A Noble physicist wrote a paper: “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences.” Scientists use mathematics as a Wonderful Gift but they have no idea why it works so well. The precision of mathematics reflects the excellent quality of His fine workmanship. Many scientists today are puzzled by the fact that the material world they study can be accurately described in mathematical equations. The falling of a stone or a feather, even the colors of a rainbow, all correspond to mathematical formulae. Even chaos has a mathematical description.”

 

If this is true, then the “God is” list, could also include “math” and the universe could very well be digital and the illusion part mentioned above, truly reflects the mysteries of 2 Cor 4:18, Rom 1:20 and others. It also backs up James when he says that our lives are a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. 2 Peter 3:10 warns us that the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and elements shall melt with fervent heat and then asks in verse 11, seeing that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be? Ian Taylor makes a good point when he says, there isn't enough oxygen in our atmosphere to burn up the works of the world, which then points to a supernatural fire that will be needed to carry out that task.

 

If it is possible that the whole universe came from something smaller than an atom (and I have no doubt that it did) it still had to come from somewhere, and that somewhere couldn't have possibly been from nothing as some suppose. Remember; if there can be no supernatural/spiritual world, then it is virtually and scientifically an impossibility that anything could spontaneously appear all on its own – despite what science says about the quantum aberrations.

 

We have been force fed a constant diet of atheistic garbage, sold as science, in our educational systems for so long it has become a rite of passage. No one dares to question the authority of those institutions because we have been brainwashed into thinking that those letters behind their names actually means something. It only means that they have conformed to a course of study that defies logic and commonsense and true science and has made the denial of reality, fashionable.

 

Because God never created everything from nothing and most everything in physical existence is partly electrical – it; like light, life, love, truth, etc, had to come from God. Love, for instance, comes from God not nothing. A rock cannot love.

 

How do we know God is time and energy if it doesn't say that in the Bible? God is eternal and is the lowest common denominator of all creation. If we could divide matter in half until it disappeared, we would wind up at the feet of God. There is almost nothing physical outside of God without energy in it. These are the “mysteries” we may not ever understand and as Halley (in his Bible Handbook) states the hope that: “in the beyond, we shall understand the mysteries of existence.” But as I have previously stated; thanks to the billions of dollars the world has spent on finding out where we came from, “they” have proven not only “how” we came into being but have proven that it is and has to be a supernatural happening and not an accidental mystery. Calling creation a mystery is just an excuse to sin while we wait to find the out truth.

 

Electricity by its very nature or existence is alive and active. Electricity is the life-blood of existence. The same mystery that exists about the hows and whys of electricity in the earth also exist about God. They also exist about the electricity in the heart.

 

If there is no electricity there is no life, if there is no matter there is no existence. God is energy, which is manifested by electricity causing movement and life to all things. Without electricity everything is dead but remembering also the moving of the Spirit of God. We know that there is electricity in the earth and that it gives life to this planet and protection from bursts of radiation from the sun, among other things.

 

People want cold hard facts about the existence of God and the supernatural world but they refuse to connect that world with the world where people levitate things with their mind and a host of other supernatural goings on. There is a “disconnect” between the two worlds of the spiritual and humanism. There is something supernatural going on there, whether of God or the devil. Things of the devil are done for the seduction of a certain segment of mankind but all, should take note. At any rate, no matter what science knows or seeks to find out, it takes faith to see God and that is the way He set it up. But faith goes deeper than that. Satan and all the rebellious angels know God but still rebelled against His rule so I guess we shouldn't be surprised when people down here do the same type of things, such as when Eve was beguiled by the serpent. It has to be a matter of faith in action otherwise known as obedience. The innocent Eve (before sin was assigned to her) was beguiled by the serpent - an act I'd call a sin. Even the sin of Eve had to have a beginning point, and that point of origin was Satan – but that's another subject.

 

Faith isn't something scientists can get their hands on even though they are practicing it daily by thinking every thing comes from nothng or, was just there waiting to procreate itself, via a huge explosion – which only creates more questions. There could be no explosion without God doing it.

 

If there is a Great Creator, they can forget about all the (creation) mysteries and concentrate on where He came from. To anyone with an open mind and not living in denial, we can see that He is Eternal and that is where proper faith comes in.

 

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ESSAY 3

 

Concerning ex nihilo - creation out of nothing: I don't know if we are dealing with semantics or not, when trying to figure out if God created everything out of nothing, as most of the Christian world seems to think or if God created it out of His vast and infinite power from within the eternal self-existing energy that is God. I think the latter. Creation all started in the mind of God and since everything physical in creation can be reduced to its lowest common denominator (which are probably neutral and subatomic particles). By reason of the make-up of everything, we can see that the only thing God had to bring over from His Eternal side of existence to ours (as from nothing) would be the various particles and then those particles would be made into all the things in creation by His hands. If there is anything to creation ex nihilo, it is through those particles that were a direct and miraculous creation (through the manifestation) that exhibit the power of God, and also to make His power manifest to the visible world (that was yet to come). Everything is built upon the Word of God and that Word comes out of God and not just nothing. It comes by reason of God's Deity and subsequent power. When I say, without God's continual power and energy, particles cannot exist or continue to exist, I don't know if that is entirely true or not (but I expect that it is). Neutrons are either drawn directly out of God's energy by His infinite power; into a physical existence in (what would be) this universe and they remain neutral until God places electrical charges on them or specifically creates electrons and protons that will be combined to make up all the elements of the periodic table. There is one school of thought that says; neutrons have an equal charge of negative and positive, and that thought would better fit the electrical connection to God and the manifestation process. And all God would have to do is imbalance the neutron instead of adding a positive or negative charge to a non-electrical entity.

 

He (the deity that is God) envisioned the world before it was ever made and brought it about out of His infinite power, energy and knowledge. I, for one am not willing to call all of that “nothing.” If Jesus did in fact do all the creation work (as applies to this world), He got the ability and materials directly from God much like Solomon did from David when he set about to build the temple. In looking up the word “power” in the dictionary as applied to God; it is - “energy or force that do work” and is the physical part that applies to God and creation as well as the authority part, and it is all wrapped up in, the Infinite - (without limits or bounds) power that bridges and covers all aspects of power. It took infinite power, energy and knowledge to create the universe and you don't get all that from “nothing” as some suppose. It simply highlights the crossover from spiritual to physical. All creation is a God-breathed entity (Ps 33:6) and I think that includes the subatomic and elemental particles. Jesus had the beginnings of creation within His pre-incarnate body – which God made (Rev. 3:14 - KJV) and not just somehow pre-existed throughout all eternity all by itself. You don't have God Himself and the Holy Spirit be invisible (throughout all eternity) while Jesus somehow has a pre-incarnate body capable of appearing and disappearing at will. And it isn't so much the appearing and disappearing body that is the astounding part as it is the actual atomic structure of what the body is made up of and it's need to be created and, what it is made of - electricity. Where would such a body come from if not God? Jesus is God via the Spirit first, not the flesh, even though the Word was made flesh, second. However, Jesus is God through the flesh – Emmanuel but not as a self-existing entity. If that were possible, then evolution would have grounds for their supposition that everything came nothing. “The Word was made flesh,” indicates a God-breathed creation and not an ex nihilo creation or a self-existing entity. God does not have Jesus' spirit but Jesus has God's very Spirit. Jesus is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. God is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is not God – the Holy Spirit is from God. God is not Jesus (from eternity) but Jesus is God from the moment God made Him because it is God's eternal Spirit that is in Jesus whereas our spirit is from God and placed within us – I presume at conception, even though the egg is viable and the sperm is alive individually before conception, which denotes the spirit of life is in any living thing.

 

It is God's power that brings particles into existence but those particles come out of God's eternal energy - manifested, and not from nothing.

 

The electricity that is in the earth is generated by and from God and maintained from Him as well – it does not and is not coming from nothing. God is the energy source of the entire universe and everything in it, and He is what sustains it.

 

Particles came out of the creative genius of His mind as He had them pictured long before creation came about. As He breathed the stars into existence (PS 33:6) He thought about the atom before He made it and the thoughts of God are not “nothing.” This is where the transition or manifestation part comes in. This is best understood by looking at the 2 Cor 4:18 model – temporal out of eternal, not nothing. At any rate, everything came out of His eternal, infinite energy – via the spirit/electrical connection. As He hand-made the first man (Adam), He has also hand-made the first of everything and then set within them the ability to procreate where procreation is possible. A baby in the womb is still a hands-on creation (by God) Job 10:8-12. Job 31:5 – “Did not He that made me in the womb make him?” And, “did not one fashion us in the womb?” Ps 119:73; Jer 1:5. Actually, I think it is the various spirits of God carrying on the continuous works of God, whether creating a star or a baby. If the Holy Spirit was responsible for the conception of Jesus within Mary, then it seems reasonable to think that the other spirits of God could be responsible for the continual creation of the stars and anything else that is being created or sustained. And if God set within the stars to produce themselves – so what – it is still an act of God. The laws of nature are acts of God. Where are the dead ancestors of the Giant Redwood trees in California? The live ones date back about 2000 years or so. Where did they come from if the world is either six thousand years old or 13.7 billion years old? Or the important question has to be when did they come into existence, if it wasn't 2000 years ago? When God looked around and saw that His creation was “good” it doesn't have to mean that He was done creating and the Redwoods seem to prove that, and not evolution. It also proves that God is not locked into Genesis 1:1 and the subsequent six-days of creation. How many years would it take for a Giant Redwood to evolve and where are its relatives?

 

The whole concept of science which means knowledge and knowledge not being self-existent – comes from God. There is no knowledge outside of somebody that knows something. Knowledge, without somewhere to go, has nowhere to go and is a total waste – not to mention, an impossibility. Creation comes out of a combination of energy, power and knowledge and knowledge as well as the power and energy comes out of God. The very facts of science are knowledge and even at that; you can't get that from nothing and nowhere – it comes from within the mind of God and passed along by the Holy Spirit to human beings – where they seem to get all the credit. If E=MC2, God knew it long before Einstein did. The transition from the mind of God's creative genius to our physical reality is what we are talking about here. Could the inanimate create personality, mind and intelligence? Where did it come from if wasn't a higher power? Knowledge is certainly something, even if you can't see it. And all that knowledge was not just sitting there floating around in outer space and simply started formulating vary complicated formulas of creation out of thin air (space) as is suggested by the quantum sciences and creation ex nihilo. Quantum fluctuations, false vacuums and loop quantum cosmologies and background radiation “lumpy” enough (evolution's term) to form stars and planets are terms atheistic science came up with to explain the creation of something from nothing instead of calling it what it is - supernatural.

 

The really sad part is that it is God that gives all those atheistic scientists all their brains and they turn around and bite the hand that feeds them. The atheistic supposition is: that elemental particles in whatever forms or conglomerations they were in – just happened to be there and started doing all these creative things all by themselves. They fail to see the hand of God upon these creative processes.

 

As students in high school or college they should demand that their teachers and professors tell them where the particles came from in the first place other than allowing them to shrug their shoulders and claim, “it's a mystery.” And by claiming vast amounts of time, they are getting a free ride and no one holding the purse strings is calling them into accountability. The Spirit of God can enable us to read between the lines and see what has really happened to science – so-called. It has been hijacked.

 

God converted (or manifested) His energy into the particles that He used to create everything. He holds them in existence by His very presence - His power. If He lets go, they disappear just like the atom – no electricity – no atom – no atom, no existence of anything such as we know it. The spirit that held the electricity in the atom, when released goes back to God and the atoms and even the neutrally charged particles probably cease to exist. If there is a possibility that neutrons are self-existent, it is because they are from the substance of God or His invisible Spirit – don't panic, it's just a thought. As that grain of sand is made up of invisible particles, so those particles are made up of or from and/or through, God's spirit – the same spirit that indwells us, giving us life via the heartbeat.

 

Atoms and other subatomic particles did not exist before God made them. It's absurd to say He made them out of nothing considering that He breathed into Adam the breath of life and that breath (spirit) came out of God, and not out of nothing. If the breath of life that has no physical substance is from God, then particles, which have substance cannot come out of the nowhere of nothing. Without God, “nothing” would exist and absolutely nothing wouldn't be there to prove it. I would call that, the Christian - anthropic principle. The (regular) anthropic principle states: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it – which is just more atheistic doubletalk. Of course, that declaration pre-supposes that there is no God responsible for figuring out how to make all those scientific complexities work and that will eventually lead us to seeing that we are really here and it is at God's will and power and not just some cosmological accident.

 

When the Bible says, we are God's offspring (Acts 17:28) Paul is agreeing with the thoughts of the poets that have so-said, and if it is true, then all particles are also offspring (of sorts) of God as well. Verse 25 - …seeing He gives to all life, and breath and all things. Vs. 27 - …if haply they might feel after Him, and find Him, though He be not far from every one of us. Vs. 28 – For in Him we live, and move, and have our being… Ephesians 4:6 – One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. God is as close as our next heartbeat.

 

He is an invisible Spirit and since that is the only “real” entity in existence as compared to the temporal, as in, “the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal,” that is where the real power and understanding of what is – is. 2 Cor 4:18 says, “while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.” If God is the only “real thing” in the universe, then He is the only real hope that everything (which is really nothing) could possibly come out of nothingness - to become everything, as we see it. This then moves into the metaphysical * area (something abstract and hard to understand) because if God created everything from nothing, then there is no explanation on how God did creation despite what the Bible reveals to us about where and how we came from God, into existence. Since the Bible has taken the time to say what it has said about God's nature and certain facts of creation, I think is it reasonable to think and say that we came from within God and not without, precisely because the invisible things represent and come from the Eternal and physical things are made up of invisible particles. And this is the all-important point – you can trace everything back to where it came from, which means the invisible particles had their beginnings with God – the God of light and light is photons and photons are electricity.

 

* Metaphysics: the branch of philosophy that tries to discover and explain reality and knowledge; the philosophical study of the real nature of the universe. Metaphysics includes epistemology (the theory of knowledge) and ontology (the study of reality), and cosmology, (the theory of the origin of the universe and its laws).